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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 07:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got back from Japan , where I rode for 31 out of 42 days on my Pocket Llama. Had one recurring problem that no amount of help from some of the best bicycle mechanics I could find, could fix. Every day my headset would come loose and I&#039;d have to find someone to tighten it.Spent more time trying to get help than actually sightseeing while touring.As for Bike Friday&#039;s customer service, I would have to give them a three out of ten. Totally disappointed in them, they may as well have told me I was lying. I&#039;ve ridden since I was 5 years old and am now 61 I&#039;ve even built a couple of bikes myself and I&#039;m a tradesman who takes a pride in doing a good job and feels proud that my clients don&#039;t have to chase me for shoddy work.I just hope that my LBS who I got the Llama from can resolve this problem . As for BF they really need to treat customers a lot better than how I felt they did to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got back from Japan , where I rode for 31 out of 42 days on my Pocket Llama. Had one recurring problem that no amount of help from some of the best bicycle mechanics I could find, could fix. Every day my headset would come loose and I&#8217;d have to find someone to tighten it.Spent more time trying to get help than actually sightseeing while touring.As for Bike Friday&#8217;s customer service, I would have to give them a three out of ten. Totally disappointed in them, they may as well have told me I was lying. I&#8217;ve ridden since I was 5 years old and am now 61 I&#8217;ve even built a couple of bikes myself and I&#8217;m a tradesman who takes a pride in doing a good job and feels proud that my clients don&#8217;t have to chase me for shoddy work.I just hope that my LBS who I got the Llama from can resolve this problem . As for BF they really need to treat customers a lot better than how I felt they did to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Darren and B-rad. Your feedback was very helpful. My wife and I went down to Eugene this past week and ultimately ended up ordering 2 Llamas. Can&#039;t wait to get out on the new bikes when they arrive next month.
-Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Darren and B-rad. Your feedback was very helpful. My wife and I went down to Eugene this past week and ultimately ended up ordering 2 Llamas. Can&#8217;t wait to get out on the new bikes when they arrive next month.<br />
-Mark</p>
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		<title>By: B-rad</title>
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		<dc:creator>B-rad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mark
I&#039;ll second Darren&#039;s advice, and add my own 2 cents.
Back when I was in the market for a pair of touring bikes for my wife and I, I was considering a Tikit - mainly for it&#039;s significant advantages in size, weight, and rapid foldability.  For these reasons they might be great for your sailboat.  However, they were not designed for touring.  

I was interested in buying touring bikes for long distance (~1000km), self supported, tours around Europe and NA, which would include cobblestone streets, country roads, gravel paths, as well as the usual paved roads.

I spoke at length with Walter, one of the customer service / sales agents at Bike Friday (who are extremely helpful and always willing to chat, btw).  He suggested that the Tikit was not designed for extended riding of this type.  The Tikit is essentially an urban commuter bike - it was very purpose built for this role, and thus the overall ride and durability are somewhat compromised.  

While it is possible to attach racks to the Tikit, I don&#039;t think they will be capable of carrying the same loads as the NWT or other bikes.  The smaller wheels are stiffer and twitchier, and will feel less stable when loaded with panniers.
Likewise, the  &quot;finer boned&quot; frame will not put up with the abuses of extended touring over the long term.  Your options with gearing are also more limited with the Tikit.  

Walter suggested that a NWT or Llama would be much more practical, cost effective, and enjoyable bike for the type of touring I wanted to do.
The NWT is what we ended up buying, and they have served us very well on trips through Spain, Belgium, and the Netherlands.

All that being said, you&#039;ll have to decide what your primary use for the bikes really is.  The Tikit would probably be ideal for storage on your sail boat, and would be quick to unfold &amp; refold for your shore excisions.  
The NWT still folds up fairly small, but the &quot;quick-fold&quot; procedure ... takes some getting used to.  I find it takes about 1-2minutes to get it really squared away.  

Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mark<br />
I&#8217;ll second Darren&#8217;s advice, and add my own 2 cents.<br />
Back when I was in the market for a pair of touring bikes for my wife and I, I was considering a Tikit &#8211; mainly for it&#8217;s significant advantages in size, weight, and rapid foldability.  For these reasons they might be great for your sailboat.  However, they were not designed for touring.  </p>
<p>I was interested in buying touring bikes for long distance (~1000km), self supported, tours around Europe and NA, which would include cobblestone streets, country roads, gravel paths, as well as the usual paved roads.</p>
<p>I spoke at length with Walter, one of the customer service / sales agents at Bike Friday (who are extremely helpful and always willing to chat, btw).  He suggested that the Tikit was not designed for extended riding of this type.  The Tikit is essentially an urban commuter bike &#8211; it was very purpose built for this role, and thus the overall ride and durability are somewhat compromised.  </p>
<p>While it is possible to attach racks to the Tikit, I don&#8217;t think they will be capable of carrying the same loads as the NWT or other bikes.  The smaller wheels are stiffer and twitchier, and will feel less stable when loaded with panniers.<br />
Likewise, the  &#8220;finer boned&#8221; frame will not put up with the abuses of extended touring over the long term.  Your options with gearing are also more limited with the Tikit.  </p>
<p>Walter suggested that a NWT or Llama would be much more practical, cost effective, and enjoyable bike for the type of touring I wanted to do.<br />
The NWT is what we ended up buying, and they have served us very well on trips through Spain, Belgium, and the Netherlands.</p>
<p>All that being said, you&#8217;ll have to decide what your primary use for the bikes really is.  The Tikit would probably be ideal for storage on your sail boat, and would be quick to unfold &amp; refold for your shore excisions.<br />
The NWT still folds up fairly small, but the &#8220;quick-fold&#8221; procedure &#8230; takes some getting used to.  I find it takes about 1-2minutes to get it really squared away.  </p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Bicycle Touring Pro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bicycle Touring Pro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is that the Tikit is not intended to be used for bicycle toruing, as it is not listed in this category on the Bike Friday website: http://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/touring It may not have the holes needed to attach a rear rack, which would mean that you would have to carry and of your bicycle touring gear on your back - something that is best avoided if at all possible. I have not used the Tikit myself, so I don&#039;t really know a whole lot about it. The best way to get a good answer on this would be to contact Bike Friday themselves and see what they recommend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that the Tikit is not intended to be used for bicycle toruing, as it is not listed in this category on the Bike Friday website: <a href="http://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/touring" rel="nofollow">http://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/touring</a> It may not have the holes needed to attach a rear rack, which would mean that you would have to carry and of your bicycle touring gear on your back &#8211; something that is best avoided if at all possible. I have not used the Tikit myself, so I don&#8217;t really know a whole lot about it. The best way to get a good answer on this would be to contact Bike Friday themselves and see what they recommend.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 16:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review Darren! My wife and I are considering BF&#039;s for two different purposes. The first is for our sailboat. Limited room and need to be portable aboard an inflatable dinghy. The second is for travel abroad, where we would use the bikes for touring. It seems obvious that the Tikit would be an attractive option for the boat. The question I have is &#039;is the Tikit a viable consideration for touring?&#039;
Again, really enjoyed reading your review.
-Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review Darren! My wife and I are considering BF&#8217;s for two different purposes. The first is for our sailboat. Limited room and need to be portable aboard an inflatable dinghy. The second is for travel abroad, where we would use the bikes for touring. It seems obvious that the Tikit would be an attractive option for the boat. The question I have is &#8216;is the Tikit a viable consideration for touring?&#8217;<br />
Again, really enjoyed reading your review.<br />
-Mark</p>
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